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2009 Orion VII problems

NHTSA lists 1 complaints for the 2009 Orion VII, 0 of them mention a crash and 0 mention a fire. 0 complaints mention an injury, with 0 injuries and 0 deaths reported.

Data build 2026-10-08.

NHTSA lists this vehicle as ORION VII.

At a glance

Complaints
1
With crash
0
With fire
0
With injury (complaints)
0
Injuries
0
Deaths
0
Recalls
8
Do not drive recalls
0
Park outside recalls
0
Recall potential units (maximum)
3,009
Investigations
1
Open investigations
0
Manufacturer communications
14

Complaints per 100k sold unavailable. No sales source is available for this record.

Where the complaints are

Top systems
SystemComplaintsShare of this vehicle's complaints
ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING1100.0%
Top subsystems
SystemSubsystemComplaints
ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLINGCOOLING SYSTEM1

One complaint can name several systems, so shares can add to more than 100 percent.

Model-generated complaint tags: This model year has not been tagged.

Recalls

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8 recalls.

15V288000

Date: 2015-05-15. Systems: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING.

Defect: Daimler Buses North America (DBNA) is recalling certain model year 2007-2012 Orion VII natural gas-powered transit buses manufactured January 1, 2007, to October 1, 2012. Excessive engine crankcase pressures may cause the 90-degree elbow of the vent tube assembly to detach from the crankcase ventilation breather, possibly allowing engine oil to come into contact with hot surfaces. (excerpt)

Consequence: If the engine oil comes into contact with hot surfaces, it can increase the risk of a vehicle fire. (excerpt)

Remedy: Cummins will notify owners on behalf of DBNA, and dealers will secure the ends of the 90-degree elbow. In addition, the electronic control module (ECM) will be reprogrammed with software that can adjust the engine output under misfire conditions to limit crankcase pressures. These repairs will be performed free of charge. The recall began on June 12, 2015. Owners may contact DBNA at 1-905-403- (excerpt)

Do not drive: No. Park outside: No.

14V106000

Date: 2014-03-05. Systems: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING.

Defect: Daimler Buses North America (DBNA) is recalling certain model year 2007-2012 Orion VII transit buses manufactured January 2007 through October 2012 equipped with certain Cummins Westport Model ISL G engines. Condensation in the intake manifold may freeze during cold weather conditions and interfere with the proper operation of the intake manifold pressure sensor.

Consequence: The improper operation of the sensor could induce elevated exhaust temperatures or flames from the exhaust pipe, increasing the risk of a vehicle fire or burn injury to a person near the exhaust pipe.

Remedy: Cummins Inc. and Cummins Wesport Inc. will notify owners, and authorized Cummins service facilities will upload a new ECM calibration, free of charge. The recall began on April 12, 2014. Owners may contact DBNA at 1-905-403-7807 or Cummins Inc. at 1-800-343-7357. Cummins' number for this recall is C1462 (for ISL G engines) or C1461 (for ISX12 G) engines.

Do not drive: No. Park outside: No.

13V476000

Date: 2013-09-27. Systems: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM.

Defect: Daimler Buses North America Ltd. (DBNA) is recalling certain model year 2003-2008 Orion V and model year 2002-2010 VII buses equipped with Sure Power equalizers and DC-DC Converters. The specific potting compound used in the equalizers and convertors for insulation was found to be capable of conducting electricity after being exposed to heat.

Consequence: Once electrically conductive, the material is capable of melting and burning, increasing the risk of a fire.

Remedy: DBNA will notify owners and Sure Power representatives will change out the equalizer and/or convertor, free of charge. The recall is expected to begin during November 2014. Owners may contact DBNA at 1-905-403-1111.

Do not drive: No. Park outside: No.

10V015000

Date: 2010-01-21. Systems: POWER TRAIN.

Defect: DAIMLER BUSES IS RECALLING CERTAIN ORION TRANSIT BUSES EQUIPPED WITH THE MORSE REMOTE THROTTLE CONTROL. THE MORSE REMOTE THROTTLE CONTROL PANEL IS LOCATED IN THE ENGINE COMPARTMENT AND A SWITCH ON IT IS LABELED, "THROTTLE"; "OFF" OR "FRONT" AND "ON" OR "REAR" SELECTING THE ACTIVE ENGINE CONTROL STATION. IF A PERSON OPERATING THE ENGINE FROM THE "REAR" POSITION (AT THE ENGINE) FAILS TO PLACE THE SW (excerpt)

Consequence: THE BUS COULD ACCELERATE AT A HIGHER RATE THAN ANTICIPATED INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH. (excerpt)

Remedy: DAIMLER WILL PROVIDE INSTRUCTIONS TO MODIFY THE WIRING TO THE MORSE THROTTLE CONTROL SWITCH. THIS SERVICE WILL BE PERFORMED FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL BEGAN ON APRIL 1, 2010. OWNERS MAY CONTACT DAIMLER BUSES AT 1-800-716-7466. (excerpt)

Do not drive: No. Park outside: No.

09V413000

Date: 2009-10-20. Systems: INTERIOR LIGHTING.

Defect: DAIMLER BUSES OF NORTH AMERICA IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2002 THROUGH 2009 ORION TRANSIT BUSES EQUIPPED WITH LUMINATOR HORIZON LED SIDE DESTINATION SIGNS. THE CONNECTOR BOARD CAN CORRODE DUE TO AN ACCUMULATION OF MOISTURE UNDER THE CONNECTOR.

Consequence: A SHORT COULD OCCUR, POSSIBLY CAUSING SMOKE AND A FIRE.

Remedy: ORION WILL NOTIFY OWNERS AND THE BUSES WILL BE REPAIRED BY LUMINATOR FREE OF CHARGE. PLEASE SEE LUMINATOR'S DEFECT REPORT 09E-054. THE SAFETY RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN DURING NOVEMBER 2009. OWNERS MAY CONTACT LUMINATOR AT 1-972-516-3033 OR ORION AT 1-800-716-7466.

Do not drive: No. Park outside: No.

09V318000

Date: 2009-08-07. Systems: VISIBILITY.

Defect: DAIMLER BUS NORTH AMERICA IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2006 THROUGH 2009 ORION VII TRANSIT BUSES MANUFACTURED FROM DECEMBER 2007 THROUGH JULY 2009. THE PASSENGER WINDOWS HAVE A TIP-IN TRANSOM WINDOW WHICH IS ATTACHED BY SCREWS. THESE SCREWS MAY LOOSEN AND THE WINDOW MAY DISLODGE AND FALL INTO THE BUS. (excerpt)

Consequence: A COLLAPSING WINDOW COULD INJURE PASSENGERS. (excerpt)

Remedy: AN INTERIM NOTICE WAS SENT TO OWNERS ON OCTOBER 21, 2009 INSTRUCTING THEM TO CHECK THAT THE SCREWS ARE PROPERLY TIGHTENED AND TO INSPECT THEM PERIODICALLY. A PERMANENT REPAIR IS NOW AVAILABLE AND OWNERS WILL BE PROVIDED INSTRUCTIONS TO REPAIR THE BUSES FREE OF CHARGE. AN OWNER NOTIFICATION ADVISING OWNERS ABOUT THE PERMANENT FREE REMEDY WILL BE MAILED ON OR ABOUT AUGUST 27, 2010. OWNERS MAY CON (excerpt)

Do not drive: No. Park outside: No.

09V215000

Date: 2009-06-11. Systems: VISIBILITY.

Defect: ORION IS RECALLING 286 MODEL YEAR 2007 THROUGH 2009 TRANSIT BUSES MANUFACTURED BETWEEN DECEMBER 2007 AND APRIL 2009. THE BOND OF THE GLASS TO THE ALUMINUM FRAME OF THE PASSENGER WINDOWS IS NOT ADEQUATE ENOUGH TO HOLD THE WINDOW ATTACHED TO THE FRAME.

Consequence: THE WINDOW COULD DISLODGE FROM THE BUS WHILE IN OPERATION, POSSIBLY BECOMING A ROAD HAZARD TO OTHER MOTORISTS WHICH COULD RESULT IN A VEHICLE CRASH.

Remedy: ORION WILL NOTIFY OWNERS AND THE MOVING WINDOW PORTION WILL BE REPLACED FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN ON OR BEFORE JULY 15, 2009. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HEHR INTERNATIONAL AT 1-989-845-3067 OR ORION AT 1-800-716-7466.

Do not drive: No. Park outside: No.

09V121000

Date: 2009-04-15. Systems: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM.

Defect: DAIMLER BUSES IS RECALLING 380 MY 2008-2009 VII BUSES CONFIGURED WITH A MOBILE CLIMATE CONTROL (MCC) HEATER AND THOSE WITH A MCC DEFROSTER MANUFACTURER FROM OCTOBER 2008 - MARCH 2009 ONLY. THE BLOWER MOTOR MOUNT SCREWS MAY NOT HAVE THE PROPER TORQUE. IF THE FOUR BLOWER MOTOR MOUNT SCREWS DISCONNECT, THE BRACKET CAN MOVE POSSIBLY CAUSING AN ELECTRICAL TERMINAL SHORT CIRCUIT.

Consequence: A SHORT CIRCUIT CAN RESULT IN A FIRE.

Remedy: MCC WILL INSPECT THE BUSES FOR INCORRECT TORQUE ON BLOWER MOUNTS AND TORQUE THE SCREWS CORRECTLY AS REQUIRED FREE OF CHARGE. IF THE INSPECTION REVEALS ANY DAMAGE TO THE AFFECTED COMPONENTS, ADDITIONAL REPAIRS WILL BE MADE AS NECESSAY. THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN DURING MAY 2009. OWNERS MAY CONTACT DAIMLER BUSES AT 905-403-7807.

Do not drive: No. Park outside: No.

Investigations

1 investigations; 0 open.

EQ09007

Opened: 2009-08-18. Closed: 2009-11-24.

FALLING BUS WINDOWS

THE PURPOSE OF THIS INVESTIGATION WAS TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE TIP-IN STYLE TRANSOM WINDOWS SUPPLIED TO DAIMLER BUSES FOR USE ON BUSES IT MANUFACTURED, AND CONCERNING WHICH THAT COMPANY MADE A DEFECT DETERMINATION, WERE SUPPLIED TO ANY OTHER VEHICLE MANUFACTURERS OR AS REPLACEMENT EQUIPMENT AND, IF SO, TO PROMPT ADDITIONAL SAFETY RECALLS IF AND WHERE NEEDED.RMD ISSUED A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION TO

Systems: VISIBILITY.

Linked campaign numbers: None listed.

Manufacturer communications

14 manufacturer communications.

Communications by system
SystemCount
EQUIPMENT8
ELECTRICAL SYSTEM1
ENGINE1
ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING1
FUEL SYSTEM, DIESEL1
FUEL SYSTEM, OTHER1
STRUCTURE1
VISIBILITY1

10159783

Date: 2019-04-01. Type: Service Bulletin/Repair Instructions. Systems: EQUIPMENT, STRUCTURE.

Letter to four (4) New York State transit bus customers regarding performing

10124132

Date: 2017-10-27. Type: Service Bulletin/Repair Instructions. Systems: EQUIPMENT.

14CSA23 CSC Announces ?Tech Tips? ? DDCSN

10128744

Date: 2016-03-28. Type: Service Bulletin/Repair Instructions. Systems: FUEL SYSTEM, DIESEL.

16TS7 Reman Diesel Particulate Filter Serial Number

10124143

Date: 2014-10-31. Type: Service Bulletin/Repair Instructions. Systems: EQUIPMENT.

14TL8 TorcUP? Non-Impacting Torque Tool.

10124131

Date: 2014-10-24. Type: Service Bulletin/Repair Instructions. Systems: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM.

14CSA22 DTNA Chassis Wiring Diagrams

10124144

Date: 2014-10-23. Type: Service Bulletin/Repair Instructions. Systems: EQUIPMENT.

14TL9 Special Tool Warranty Program.

10124142

Date: 2014-10-15. Type: Service Bulletin/Repair Instructions. Systems: EQUIPMENT.

14TL7 DD Platform Flywheel Housing Runout Tool W470589032100

10124130

Date: 2014-10-14. Type: Service Bulletin/Repair Instructions. Systems: EQUIPMENT.

14CSA21 Holiday Schedule for the Detroit Customer Support Center ?

10124129

Date: 2014-10-10. Type: Service Bulletin/Repair Instructions. Systems: EQUIPMENT.

14CSA20 EGR Valve Actuator Kit P/N E23539699

10124117

Date: 2014-10-01. Type: Service Bulletin/Repair Instructions. Systems: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING.

sb2080 Australian CST M1400 Isolated Radiator Retrofit

Notes on this record

  • Complaints from the API and bulk file are merged and deduplicated by ODI number; the API alone misses records.
  • System and subsystem counts are numbers of distinct complaints, recalls or communications that name them. One record can name several systems, so shares across systems can add to more than 100 percent; a single share never exceeds 100 percent.
  • Recalls are counted once per campaign, investigations once per action and manufacturer communications once per NHTSA id, even when NHTSA lists several model names for the same record.
  • A sales denominator is a calendar-year proxy, not the population of vehicles still in use. Rates are copied from verified pipeline output.

Other names NHTSA uses

None listed.

Matched NHTSA models

Matched labels and complaints
NHTSA model labelComplaints
VII1

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Other Orion models, 2009

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